How did things change so quickly? The Colorado woman's husband, Chris - a normally loving affectionate man - had become cold and distant. She ruled EVERY aspect of their lives and he complied with it all. She didnt break him. Interesting he says when things were not going well in their relationship, thats when she poured herself into work, out late, not coming home at all etc. You are a complete moron if you think she killed her kids. On Nov. 6, Watts pleaded guilty to the nine charges he faced, including five counts of first-degree murder. The heartbreaking messages hint at a crumbling marriage and a wife who can't figure out why her husband seems to suddenly want a divorce. [2]The Denver Post jQuery('#footnote_plugin_tooltip_2575_1_2').tooltip({ tip: '#footnote_plugin_tooltip_text_2575_1_2', tipClass: 'footnote_tooltip', effect: 'fade', predelay: 0, fadeInSpeed: 200, delay: 400, fadeOutSpeed: 200, position: 'top right', relative: true, offset: [10, 10], }); Watts Murder Case Being Discussed on Dr. Oz Show. All of this would allow him to pacify her as well as himself and buy him some more time. That same month Shanann and her daughters flew to North Carolina for six weeks to visit family, per Pop Sugar. She would have received spousal support but there is a time limit on that. ET. lts only one way emotions and feelings. The two had a tumultuous relationship, and divorced in 2013. It probably doesnt matter to those people that Shanann was controlling, and you raise a good point, did she internalize everything and wonder what she was doing wrong? I think ur right with all this. Heartbreaking evidence photos and video of stained shirt, underwear and bra Shanann Watts was wearing when her husband murdered her, wrapped her in a sheet and put her in shallow grave The. Her first marriage/husband Discussion I'm interested in Shannan's first marriage. Why was their marriage not going well? The film features the story of the case and stars Sean Kleier and Ashley Williams as Chris Watts and Shanann Watts, respectively. Her friend tried to soothe her, to no avail. I have been there but sometimes you have to get a reality check. Murder is a way to save the family from the hardships, etc. "Chris these have been the best years of my life! There is never a good enough reason to do what he did. The fact that the self-help book was put in the trash and the wedding ring left on the bedside table arent incidental. I dont think he seems like much of the lovey-dovey father/husband type. The way she told him about Nico was bizarre. How old was he? Shanann Watts and her younger brother, Frankie Rzucek, were raised in Aberdeen, N.C. Chris Watts is also from North Carolina, and he married Shanann Watts in the state back in 2010. In June 2018, Shanann told her husband she was pregnant with their third child. Chris and Shanann had their first date August 10, 2010. He pleaded guilty that November to all three slayings. The juxtaposition of Shananns seemingly idyllic life and its violent end has stunned the public and attracted widespread media attention. Shanann Watts' FIRST husband: Interview excerpts Thought-provoking videos 6.44K subscribers Subscribe 401 Share 22K views 2 years ago Everyone deserves to know the Truth: That "God is Love". Watts had two daughters with her husband, named Bella and Celeste. Shanann went on a business trip to Arizona and returned on August 13, 2018, at about 1:48 in the morning; her friend and colleague Nickole Utoft Atkinson had offered to drop her to her home from the airport. The irony is in exactly the same way he didnt feel acknowledged, towards the very end she complained that he hadnt acknowledged her or their unborn child. Thats bad enough in private, in a marriage, imagine what it feels like to see that on social media from your partner. Chris likes other people calling the shots. Shananns behavior is not odd at all, in fact, its pretty much how people act when they no longer want to be with you. Like a mercy killing. My relationship with my ex-husband ended up terrible but we divorced and now we are with great other people! The ex states Shanann states she left because domestic violence. She was making it very difficult for him to go through with a divorce. And if you dont, youre victim blaming. Not a popular opinion. Interesting none-the-less. And so I agree with you Holly that five week taste of freedom sealed the deal, and he couldnt go back to business as usual. He had policies on his kids and wife. Divorce and talks of separation are obviously ways to verbally and mentally distance ones self from a S/O when talking to a potential new partner but this can oftentimes be the catalyst as wellthe reason for the Familicideone has to keep up with the lie they have already told. People with less than 2 brain cells should not be allowed to comment on public posts. Was it weakness on his part or hers? In an effort to avoid the death sentence, he had pled guilty on Nov. 6, 2018 to killing his pregnant 34-year-old wife Shanann Watts, and their daughters, Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3, not quite three months earlier.And the five life sentences that would be handed down weeks laterplus additional time for the murder of his unborn son . Three weeks before a friend reported Shanann missing on Aug. 13, leading to the discovery that her and the girls had been murdered, Shanann texted her husband on July 24, writing, "l realized. But wasnt he eligible for the GI Bill hmmmmm? She was a fraud plain and simple. Shanann Watts and the girls had gone to visit her . Well, she shouldnt have . A more assertive divorce narrative [to Kessinger]. Not sure how often that happens even though Im still friends with my sons ex-wife but it would be very hard not to like her, There is an interview of an ex-girlfriend . I like your thoughts too, Holly. In November 19, 2018, Chris Watts received three consecutive life sentences for the August 2018 deaths of his pregnant wife, Shanann Watts, and their daughters, Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3. I dont think the affair and murder had to do with being spineless as I believe he was always capable of this he just never had the gull to stand up for himself before (I mean that loosely and sarcastically)by that I mean that he disengaged and went with the fun new model that also slightly resembled his wife. Have you forgotten what he did to her and his own children? After he strangled her Chris said. Both native to North Carolina, they married in Mecklenberg County, North Carolina in 2012. In Shananns mind she may have convinced herself it all had to do with the nut argument with his parents, then at the end of her life she may have gotten the message that he was cheating, but way way before that. He remarried and has kids. Shanann was married to a man named Leonard Kim and they got divorced in 2009. Thats what probably sealed her fate. People are not born Coverts Narcissist, they become and it stems from bad parenting. But besides the reference above, from page 2106 of the Discovery Discovery documents, we also know that Shanann herself was openly discussing the prospect of divorce as early as March or April 2018, at least a month before she fell pregnant. She did her schooling from Pinecrest High School in Southern Pines. Tammy Lee, an investigator in the case, conducted the . Meanwhile Chris was looking for someone else, he was just sick of her and all her BS. He seemed very distracted and disengaged. Grief is written on your face for the rest of your life. She died on August 13, 2018 in Frederick, Colorado, USA. Obviously he didnt think it through well enough but I also agree with other posters, he may be someone who is easily pushed over and goes with the flow but having all those strong personality types around him doesnt overshadow the fact that he was harboring a deeper hatred/set of feelings/energy inside, layered deep within himself. Do there was financial issues going on. Shanann was on board with getting pregnant as this would calm the household down, giving them something to look forward to, and keep him in a marriage that was sucking the life out of him. To her he was in the midst of a divorce, and by the time of the murders the divorce was being finalized, and so was the sale of the house. In BENEATH THE OIL, for the first time the full extent of how Chris Watts was locked-in is revealed, as well as why he may have broken out of his deeply dysfunctional marriage the way he did. The documentary investigates the 2018 crimes of Chris Watts, 35, who brutally killed his pregnant wife Shanann, 34, and their two daughters Bella, four and Celeste aged three. Shanann Watts Chris Watts familyhttps://www.facebook.com/ShanannWatts/photosCredit: Shanann Watts/Facebook, Chris Wattsdivorcehair jazzSeparationTimeline. Chilling photos show stained clothes Shanann Watts was wearing when she was murdered and buried in shallow grave by husband The clothing did not match what Shanann Watts was wearing in. Obviously Thrive was all BS and she was facing a pregnancy all by herself, flat broke and facing humiliation from her team/peers and raising kids by herself. Chris Watts opened up about the many cracks in his marriage shortly after being sentenced to life in prison without parole for murdering his family. A 34-year-old Shanann was also 15 weeks pregnant with a boy they planned on naming Nico. Just Published! Chris had his $5 million bails revoked after this and was remanded to custody immediately. It really isnt a good feeling at all to know you are expendable and vulnerable. Part of HuffPost Crime. Where does the need to reinforce someones mistake come from? Didnt Shanann cheat on Leonard with the middle eastern guy at Dirty South he mentions? It seemed choreographed. I think that was the form her OCD took. If you look at photos of their dining room before the bankruptcy you can see a beautiful black dining set with side board and Im not talking cheap stuff here as I would say the set was a minimum of $5-7000. "They were going to separate. He went from being a loving husband excited to welcome a new baby to his family to a man cheating on his wife to a man who murdered his wife and daughters and dumped them in an oil field. Once there, he smothered the girls and dumped the bodies of all three. They withdraw and distance themselves. He then dumped his children's bodies on an oil site owned by the company he worked for. Daughter of Frank Rzucek and Sandra Rzucek. He stated that he was having an affair with a woman named Nichol Kessinger and wanted to divorce Shanann, but Shanann did not want a separation, and she strangled their daughters in response to that. Going way back, back to the conversation she had with Mr. Hamza, back before Chris was shopping around for hookups, back to when he might have first flirted with Nichole Kessinger. THIS IS TOTAL LEFT FIELD.. At present, the house is valued $583,500 (as of 2020). One of the jobs typically associated with psychopaths are salespeople. People divorce and move on with their lives. Height [1]IMDb jQuery('#footnote_plugin_tooltip_2575_1_1').tooltip({ tip: '#footnote_plugin_tooltip_text_2575_1_1', tipClass: 'footnote_tooltip', effect: 'fade', predelay: 0, fadeInSpeed: 200, delay: 400, fadeOutSpeed: 200, position: 'top right', relative: true, offset: [10, 10], });: 5 5. Shanann, who posted on social media as part of her job selling health products, interspersed her sales pitches with adoring messages about her husband and kids. This is a lot of the same behavior patterns people go through when they get abortions. That is where the Psychology comes into questionForensically/Criminally, Behaviorally and otherwise. Didnt she say somewhere that Chris is the one who thought a third child, hoping for a boy, would help their marriage and then she mentions to people that he now thinks Bella and Celeste are enough? Why is it assumed that Shannan is controlling and that Chris hated it? At some point she was finished with the relationship and iced him out. The pair began dating and married in 2012, with Shanann quickly settling into what seemed to be her dream roles of wife and mother. Wedding Picture of Shanann and Chris Watts. For anyone who questions if he did, think about losing your child. Taylor, "I am here for you and whatever you need. Days before she was murdered by her husband, 34-year-old Shanann Watts reached out to a friend and shared her growing concerns about her marriage -- but she never suspected she was in danger. Why do you need film footage of that? I dont buy him snapping, as you mentioned on a previous post, after Shanann threatened him with never seeing his kids again. For some reason she couldnt fathom him cheating and posting stupid shit constantly about her wonderful life that was only in her head. So they had been together only 8 years and 3 day at the time on that fatal morning. He was interviewed by many news channels where he pleaded for the return of his family. November 19 saw Chris getting five life sentences: three consecutive and two concurrent, without the possibility of parole; an additional 48 years for the unlawful termination of his wifes pregnancy; 36 years for three charges of tampering with a deceased body. So maybe he was just as obsessed with money as she was. I hate to sound victim blaming and this is in no way an excuse for her husband to murder her and the children for gods sake!! I would have never thot he would be able to kill his family, the people he loved with all his heart. Shanann was buried in a shallow grave, while Bella and Celeste were left submerged inside two oil tanks at the site. In 2013, the couple bought a large, five-bedroom home in Frederick, Colorado prior to the birth of their first daughter, Bella. True Crime Analysis, Breakthroughs, Insights & Discussions Hosted by Bestselling Author Nick van der Leek. Shan'ann thought - or hoped - the marriage was stuttering slightly. This was supposed to trigger the annihilation that followed. OK honey. ; she had already spent several *5* or so weeks without him before and that was the unfortunate reasoning for the freedom to start his affair with NK. In addition to the murder charges for Shanann and his daughters, he also pleaded guilty . Later that day, Nickole went to her house around 12:10 pm after Shanann had failed to attend her OB-GYN appointment and business meeting; she didnt even respond to any of Nickoles messages. I think they were married 3-4 years. You dont just go out and buy thousands of dollars worth of shit just before filing bankruptcy and expect to keep it. Taylor, "We will get together when I get home". He was denied bail at his first court appearance. way out by divorcing instead of killing her. Chris Watts is serving five life sentences plus 48 years in prison without the possibility of parole. They were a family. That was the plan. She was making it very difficult to admit to an affair. On the day of his arrest, Chris was fired from his job. They added that they feared that the release of the film will only increase the harassment that they had already been receiving. Shannon too did a lot for the family. Quiet people may appear calm but Chris was not quiet inside. Shanann was delusional in living beyond their means but she wasnt EVIL Chris Watts is. they were flirting long before they ever hooked up and each knew the other was interested in them. Obviously he came to this conclusion and carried it out. Oct. 29 2020, Published 3:05 p.m. He was an attorney correct? Offline, however, the text messages between Shanann and Chris and Shanann and her friends painted a starkly different picture. No one just snaps, Glenn said. In instances such as this, women and children are objects that can be disposed of and that becomes a solution to the problem.. Hes passive, a yes man, doesnt want confrontation. I love this man! To me inside he was a volcano just waiting to erupt. But the tense silence of pretending everything is fine is not healthy, or helpful. When Watts visited the Hair Jazz salon in Aberdeen where Sandi Rzucek worked, it was clear to the hairdressers [Sandis co-workers] that Watts wasnt happy, and Sandi actually told them then [in early August 2018] that the marriage wasnt working, and that the couple were separating. Shan'ann posted videos onto social media promoting selling Le-Vel's wellness supplement Thrive. Now the Lupus posts begin. In 2010, she met Chriss Lee Watts, who was an employee of the Anadarko Petroleum, Woodlands, Texas. Study up! There is content out there that confirms not only did Shanann know a split was on the cards, but her own family did too. And yet we know while this was happening Shanann still wanted to do a gender reveal. Shanann and her unborn child were found in a shallow grave near the oil tanks where Watts dumped his children. For the kind of woman Shannon was, she wouldnt have just given up on her two children even if Chris had left. They met in 2010 through mutual friends and married in November 2012. But wasn't he eligible for the GI Bill hmmmmm? That is what makes this case all the more interesting, we had most of their life documented on social media and STILL cant figure it all out. I am curious why we never hear from any other women in Chris Watts past? DENVER (AP/CBS4) Chris Watts, the sole suspect arrested in the murder of his pregnant wife and two young daughters, before dumping their bodies at an . Thank you so much for providing all of the analyzation and conclusion because it defines this case as it was and is. On to your other pointsyes and no to CW being spinelesswhile he was having an affair AND it gave him his first taste of new freedom and excitement that would have quickly worn off once there wasnt a secret to keep/hide. Shanann Watts, 34, posted the creepy image to Facebook on August 9 She appeared to think her daughters, ages three and four, posed the doll Shanann and the two girls were all killed days. Likely when Chris did the same thing to her she may have had some insight into herself, that this is what happened with Leonard, which caused her to try her hardest to get Chris to talk to her. Its the underlying current of this entire tragedy. And her house that everyone is talking about? Shanann Watts ex husband Leonard King - (Speaking about their relationship) - YouTube 0:00 / 7:24 #ShanannWatts #ChrisWatts Shanann Watts ex husband Leonard King - (Speaking about. We also know there was a lot of anger and bitterness, especially from Shananns side, over Nut Gate. I went out looking for as much information as I could, I watched a YT video from Something Criminal, S02/E02 and it narrates a good spin on the argument that CW was also creating an alternative version of his relationship with SW to his friends and family as it benefited him. And we know when Shanann returned from Phoenix that night she was still hoping to woo Watts back into the marriage, hence the planned trip to Aspen the following weekend, the love letter, the self-help book and the imminent gender reveal. Lewis Geyer/Digital First Media Group . So why take the children out too? I think he did use this separation or withdrawal narrative and allowed her to once again lead the conversations and try to pry and get more information for his gain and benefitthis would allow him to gaslight, manipulate, tell her what she wanted to hear. You do so much everyday for us and take such great care of us. I . Just so sad. It was so refreshing to finally see an actual, logical response. He then loaded his daughters into his truck along with their mother's body. It has helped me to put my thoughts in perspective because nothing else has. If she was (if she was making $80K a year) she would have to end up paying him child support. He also said so, and others said so too. Strangely he could not give the exact date or year they got married. A Timeline Of Chris And Shanann Watts' Marriage, Shanann Watts worked for a multi-level marketing company. But you can see a pattern here, with Shanann Pouring herself into work and not being interested in any of the things he was up to. 80,000 was between both of their salaries. Why kill them? I agree on all counts. Chris Watts: Complete Cast of Characters | True Crime Rocket Science / #tcrs. Shananns job and income depended on selling the idea of Thriving. But none of those descriptions really explain what led him to commit murder. Due to financial reasons, Wyndham Hill Master Association Inc., Shanann and Chris homeowners association filed a suit against them for a fee of $1,533 in July 2018. At first, Christ had told the police that he did not know where his wife and two daughters were and he hadnt seen his wife since he left for the work at 5:15 am on August 13. Having someone listen to him was a total shock to him. Very charming outside but empty inside. Chris and Shanann were from small towns in North Carolina. According to their bankruptcy documents, they made a combined $100,000 and had a mortgage payment of $3,000 per month on their $400,000 home. And Leonard King said the same thing that it was virtually impossible to engage her in conversation. But it is frustrating watching people who live 1000 times above their means and then expect everybody else to forgive their debts through bankruptcy. LEONARD had heard that SHANANN was really involved in . Well, it may be because Shanann didnt want to, and thought she could sort of control Watts into not going through with it. I am also wondering if he had some sort of a recreational drug usethe Oxy being given to SW by CW for the abortion could have been something from his own use for fun with NK?! He seems to have a minimal social life as well. Coverts are nominally closet bi-sexuals. Does anyone one have photos of it? I just thank God he took the right I read a study on LIVID COERCIVE killers who are motivated by anger and rageshowing control issues (recent) and may have abusive tendencies and have issues achieving their self-worth and authority within the home. Shanann was still very good friends with her ex husbands mother too. Days before Chris Watts murdered his wife, she sent chilling texts to a friend. In fact neither was true, divorce proceedings hadnt even started as far as we know. The first time Chris attempted to murder his two children, Shanann was still alive. Shanann was too busy with her work, if you can call it that, juggling a mountain of debt, and living the high life that Chris Watts checked out of the marriage. I believe CW told NK and SW exactly what each of them wanted to hear to fit his narrative and his end-game. The grass always looks greener when you are looking at a fantasy. Think before you speak. What if he really doesnt love me anymore? If so, nice of him not to say so. You spoil us with love an attention! Hes a fucking psychopath. The fact that Shanann was talking to a divorce lawyer about custody in April, three-and-a-half months before the murders, suggests there was a protracted period of unhappiness, and acknowledgement from both sides that things were falling apart. If that were true I dont think he would have killed them as well. So all around, it would have been a lose-lose. From the . Meanwhile Kessinger thought the marriage was over. As early as August 8th, Shanann confided in Cassie Rosenberg and Nickole Atkinson that her husband wanted a divorce [she didnt], but not right away. This baby in my belly deserves his full love, she texted her friend, who had advised her to go through Chris phone for signs of infidelity. in the future. After the film was released, Shananns family condemned the film and said that the filmmakers were only making money off the case. Two days later, a body believed to be Shananns was found on property owned by Christophers employer, Anadarko Petroleum. Choosing his clothes, his meals, his everything. The kids were told to throw chicken nuggets at him. At the time of her death, she was fifteen weeks pregnant with a son who she had named Nico Lee Watts; her date of delivery was January 31, 2019. The Watts family eventually settled in Frederick, Colorado in a five-bedroom home they bought in 2013. Her lifestyle was coming to a screeching halt. Many commenters expressed shock that a father who, by online accounts, appeared to love his family so much could brutally take their lives, as police have alleged. Yes, there is a way to test whether bodies could be placed through the Thief Hatch with [or possibly without] breaking bones but youre not going to like it, Welcome to the Post Truth Phase of the Chris Watts Case, Exclusive Interview with the Lindstrom Couple, Proof The Third Baby Was All Chris Watts Idea, The Final Three Weeks of the Phone Data Review #2YearsAgoTodayCW, A milder separation narrative [to Shanann]. Thanks Holly, for spending some time thinking and sharing your thoughts on these questions. Reportedly, the documentary consists of the archival footage of the case with no narration or enactment; it also includes social media posts, law enforcement recordings, text messages, and home videos. Then you file bankruptcy and the moving truck comes and takes all the beautiful stuff you recently purchased along with your new SUV. In BENEATH THE OIL, for the first time the full extent of how Chris Watts was locked-in is revealed, as well as why he may have broken out of his deeply dysfunctional marriage the way he did. He admitted to that. On August 16, the authorities discovered Shananns body buried in a shallow grave nearby, and the childrens bodies were found hidden in the oil tanks. Did Chris Watts not mind his wife Shanann humiliating him on Facebook? Psychoanalyse the hell out of it and for those who believe he was in a mentally abusive relationship, have your say but the fact remains that he murdered his children. NK would have gotten old to him after a while just like SW did. They had no children from their marriage together and have not communicated in over ten years he estimated. On the morning of Aug. 7, just six days before was she . No one has been able to fathom Chris Watts' motive - until now Two Face is available now exclusively on Amazon Kindle Unlimited. In an interview with a local news station on Tuesday, Christopher said he and his wife had an emotional conversation before her disappearance, and he pleaded for her and the kids to come home. Days before she was murdered by her husband, 34-year-old Shanann Watts reached out to a friend and shared her growing concerns about her marriage -- but she never suspected she was in danger.. Shanann Watts is pictured with her husband, Christopher, and their two daughters, Celeste and Bella. And once she was done she cut him out of her life. American Murder provides insight into Shanann & Chris's marriage, as well as their struggles with communication & parenting. Shannan's body was . He seems unable to make and follow through with what he leads both Shanann and Nicole K to believe. He considered his family an albatross around his neck and divorce was never an option for him after the pregnancy was announced. He tried counseling but she wouldn't participate. I know we cant judge a parent by a few videos, but I didnt see the passionatly loving parent or strong engagement between he and his kids. Its no mystery, the Watts marriage was in trouble long before Shanann received that critical credit card alert on Saturday night, proving Watts wasnt at the Rockies Games, and suggesting he wasnt eating alone. Hes my ROCK! she wrote about her husband, Christopher Watts, in May. The bankruptcy case was closed in October 2015. Making the decisions. She labeled things, yes, but it was her unwillingness to let things go that was truly obsessive. In the U.S., call 1-800-799-SAFE (7233) for the. He has changed. The streaming platform recently released the documentary American Murder: . There are strong ideas that point in a direction (multiple directions) but I think it is going to be an accumulation of reasons that ultimately led him to lash out and commit murder. A Netflix documentary titled American Murder: The Family Next Door directed by Jenny Popplewell was released in September 2020. They argued and he strangled her. Required fields are marked *. Before drilling further into this question, we need to be clear about the difference between divorce and separation. She obviously would have felt comfortable enough to leave her girls with him, to leave him for a weekend, etc. I think the parents were used as a shield, the children too, so that she would not be alone with Watts in a small hotel room trying to work out their issues and his absolutely apparent, angry and distant demeanor toward her. This explains why he had both female AND male secret lovers. I think he was confused and didnt want to make a strong decision either way, yet wanted out of his marriage and family life. Chris is an introvert. Shanann posted videos of family drama embarrassing Chris and his family, posted at least one video saying she is the dominant one in their family, insulted Chris repeatedly saying things like he has no balls and no game, insulting him to his family and to her friends. Hes conflicted by the pros and cons of making such a drastic change in his life. Hearing their parents noises, Bella came in and Chris told her that her mother was sick. On June 11 . IMO they were talking divorce/separation for quite some time, possibly a year.>>>Agreed. But after years of this I dont think its easy to change who you are or how you treat people. Thats what was so difficult to get out of. She was an independent representative for the multi-level marketing company Le-Vel. This is the full timeline of his murder case, complete with phone records, texts . Cheating is their hallmark. The first indication that something might be wrong in their daughter and her husband's marriage was during a family trip this past summer. But Chris was already involved in an affair: He had become intimate with an unwitting co-worker who believed he was getting a divorce from his wife. (He was moved out of Colorado for security reasons.). Its for a specified amount of time I believe. To her credit she was, and she did. Chris Watts has been arrested and charged with murder in connection with the deaths of Shanann, Bella, and Celeste. Chriss mom is a nasty soul and exhibits the toxic traits of a Narcissist herself, and so it would make sense. By clicking Accept All Cookies, you agree to the storing of cookies on your device to enhance site navigation, analyze site usage, and assist in our marketing efforts. At a later hearing, the bail was set at $5 million, and Chris was required to put down 15% to be released. and then giving long winded opinions about how it was ultimately her fault. He comes across as predatory and basic. Or to think everything is good but to learn that it isnt. You seem to like the psychopath label. It may or may not tell the tale of whats really going on, she said. On Monday, Shanann, who was 15 weeks pregnant, was reported missing along with her two daughters, Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3. Why is it assumed that Shannan is controlling and that Chris hated it? Parents dont like to get involved in their grown adult childrens relationships or marital problems, I understand this. It's no mystery, the Watts marriage was in trouble long before Shan'ann received that critical credit card alert on Saturday night, proving Watts wasn't at the Rockies Games, and suggesting he wasn't eating alone. It seemed like Shannon dictated everything with the kids and he just followed orders. He was an average student, pretty smart. That is a comment that should never have been said; parenthood is exhausting and social media never forgives human missteps. There are family annihilation cases each year ~ but I heard that this one took the prize in victim blaming. I cant come back like this. Separation comes up 38 times in the discovery, and 8 times [separate or separating] in the CBI Report. LEONARD reported that he and SHANANN married in 2002/2003 and divorced in 2007/2008 in SC. The word divorce comes up 35 times in the Discovery Documents and just once in the CBI Report. Prosecutors have cited Watts' desire for a fresh start with his mistress, coworker Nichol Kessinger, 30, as his motive in the killings and the Google searches, as well as other facts made public in the documents, provide insight into the state of mind of a man Shanann's father described as a "heartless monster." Its not a nice feeling. Shanann Watts' First Marriage The opening 10 minutes of American Murder features social media footage of Shanann explaining her life story. . An officer arrived at about 1:40 pm to conduct a welfare check and had a discussion with Chris regarding the ways to locate his missing family. The 34-year-old mother regularly posted updates on social media about her life in Frederick, Colorado, documenting her rise in the health and wellness world and gushing about her picturesque family. On August 21, Chris was charged with five counts of first-degree murder, an additional one count per child cited as death of a child who had not yet attained 12 years of age and the defendant was in a position of trust, three counts of tampering with a deceased human body, and unlawful termination of a pregnancy. Chris initially cooperated with police and. He thought he could sway this to work in his favor. On November 3, 2012, Chris and Shanann got married in the Mecklenberg County of North Carolina. We can ALL agree (to some degree) that there was something off with CW and there is something we all cant seem to put our finger on when it comes to their relationship and they may have just simply been not good for each other, both with differing personalities, strengths, weaknesses and ways of handling life, setbacks, feelings, etc. Is Shanann the only girlfriend he ever had? The baby was a way of Chris Watts wanting sex so instead of just asking for sex he says why dont we try for another child. ", Weeks earlier, while she was in North Carolina visiting her family with daughters Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3, she wrote to Chris: l realized during this trip whats missing in our relationship! When nobody answered the doorbell, Nickole notified Chris who was at work, and also called the Frederick Police Department. Theres also the reality check that she might not have been able to leave the state if Chris filed for joint custody. Chris boss spoke very highly of him in the first phone interview with the CBI. I can also see just a natural tendency for women to support another woman in a scenario where the man is cheating. To me he comes off douche-y, fake and spineless (I agree with Previous Poster)I dont think he has much of an identity for himself and lives much too much in his mind. @Strawheart, how do you know she didnt kill the little girls? He figured Ill get what I want and she has a hard time getting pregnant so it will never happen. IMO they were talking divorce/separation for quite some time, possibly a year. Six days later, she was dead -- strangled at the hands of her own husband. He'd stopped touching her, kissing her, would barely speak unless spoken to. He already secured the oil field site so that no one else would be there when he disposed of the bodies. You put up with 3 impatient, demanding women in the house, she wrote on, after she sent him a photo of her ultrasound; he replied that he loved the little peanut already. Between his mother controling him all thru his years growing up and then Shanann taking control, a person can only take so much. They met when she was in high school and he was in law school. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Your email address will not be published. Coupled with his need to be dependent, the savior/hero and narcissistic (tendencies); he realized he was outmatched and probably felt claustrophobic, trapped, etc. The American cable channel Lifetime released a film called Chris Watts: Confessions of a Killer on January 26, 2020. CW probably didnt believe he was good enough or thought he could do better. No joke. Perpetrators may control their victims using sexual, emotional, verbal, psychological, financial or digital abuse. Many have called him a monster, a psychopath, or just pure evil. Most mass shootings in the U.S. are also connected to domestic violence. They dont want family, friends or S/Os to know so they secretly go and get this done. Even though the family had issues before their tragic endthey filed for bankruptcy in 2015 friends and neighbors called them the "perfect" family,per The Coloradan. He smothered his daughters to death, buried his wife in a shallow grave, dumped his daughters' bodies in an oil tank, then he went to work as if nothing happened. In his eyes they had to go all of them and I believe he thought about murdering them as soon as he got a taste of freedom. I believe he didnt divorce her earlier because he needed to find someone else to take her place. On Monday, Shanann, who was 15 weeks pregnant, was reported missing along with her two daughters, Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3. You dont consider others at all, nor think about others' feelings.. According to Shannans ex, she had many of the same traits as Chris! I dated a narcissistic sociopath and I get how incredibly cold and unfeeling they can be. This case does offer a caution to other couples to communicate openly from both sides, whether from the side being overly controlling or the side that is crushed-in, and being controlled. This isnt the same obviously but it is the same mental state of mindsame thought processes. Thats so sad. Granted, this is much, much worse than that, but there may be a clue to the criminal psychology in the family dynamics. You feel like youre expendable. #ChrisWatts, A post shared by Nick van der Leek (@nickvdleek) on Jun 7, 2019 at 8:30am PDT. So I do wonder did Shanann ever really acknowledge why Chris may have been unhappy? It was a part of his responsibility. Nickole Utoft Atkinson, Friend, and Colleague of Shanann Watts. However, at the same time he was telling Kessinger a slightly different story. Can you imagine her as a single parent? Its clear from a thorough analysis of all the discovery and both confessions that Watts was trying to separate from his wife in the weeks and months before the murders, going back as far as a year [close to when Kessinger allegedly made that first Google search for Shanann Watts. Shanann was trying to make sense of it all. This is not necessarily true, but it could be true. I love Chris! she wrote. In November 2017, Shanann posted a video to her Facebook pageto celebrate their anniversary. At all. Just Published! I would love to see a list that leads to Premeditated Murder. We dont know whether there had been violence during their marriage, but it would not be surprising that Shanann tried to project a positive image to her friends and colleagues, both on and off of social media.. Youre right, Emma, about there being a lack of grief. Yes, too little to late on her end. Tons of couples go through this type of stuff! I couldnt imagine a better man for us. And I say this as a woman you can be controlling and its something Im always working on. She was the same way with her 1st husband. Her first marriage lasted approximately the same amount of time. At TCRS we dont try to take anyones side, were just trying to figure out what happened. I think he was motivated by the insurance money. should communicate even if it is good or bad information. Hes wishy washy with both and leads them to believe one thing when he actually means another. But I could be wrong. Its 2018, but in many families there is still shame associated with being a victim of domestic violence, and survivors often try to put a good face on the relationship, said Kim Gandy, president of the National Network to End Domestic Violence. Christopher is now in jail facing six charges three for first-degree murder and three for tampering with evidence. That is never a good sign. NEVER. Spot on I thinksort of sums up the sad complication of life.she was no doubt wanting to do the very best for her family, hence her ambition which could be viewed as obsession. They were Watts way of communicating to Kessinger what he just couldnt do with Shanann. document.getElementById( "ak_js" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Anne Sacoolas Wiki, Age, Husband, Family, Biography & More, Ramatu Ujiri (Masai Ujiris Wife) Wiki, Age, Height, Family, Children, Biography & More, Aaron Dean Wiki, Age, Wife, Controversy, Family, Biography & More, Larry Nassar Wiki, Age, Wife, Children, Family, Biography & More, Qasem Soleimani Wiki, Age, Death, Wife, Family, Biography & More, Maci Currin Wiki, Age, Height, Family, Biography & More. Shanann hiding her possible impending divorce, goes along with her living in denial as she does when she tells her Thrive clients that shes a better mother and all around human being because she wears a patch, eats the bars and drinks the shakes. It is something I myself have done (not proud and definitely not in the same situation of course) but I can see where things can pile up and become hard to face or tell the truth on. Watts was sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole. There was never an investigation in the case, therefore its impossible to know who killed Shanann or the little girls. In a new documentary from Netflix, newly revealed letters and texts show that Shanann had no idea that her marriage would soon turn deadly. On August 9, Shanann left for a work trip to Arizona and returned the morning of August 13. Youre right about him being spineless, but hes not completely spineless. Anger, as in a simmering boil. You are also agreeing to our Terms of Service and Privacy Policy. He hasnt touched me all week, kissed me, talked to me except for when Im trying to figure out what is wrong, Shanann explained in another text. LEONARD's current wife, dabbled in Thrive, which was the same employment as SHANANN WATTS. She states that she felt "very insecure" during her first marriage, and goes on to discuss how bad experiences transformed her into a self-motivated woman who built her own home by age 25. I do think he has some sort of an underlying personality disorder, diagnosed or undiagnosedthis would explain a lot of his strange and undetermined behavior patterns since childhood. "7 years ago I fell in love with you, 5 years ago I married my best friend, my soul mate, I married you!!" Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. He doesnt say but of course, we are only getting Leonards side of the story and we cant hear Shananns. The YT video I watched as referenced above has a few parts to it that are quite informative and have helped me to fully understand both sides of this marriageand actually if you ask me, there were more than twothere were 4 CW, SW, NK and his parents (mom) were all involved in the marriage I think there were multiple influences and opinions that were making things toxic on both ends. ! she texted, adding, He said we are not compatible anymore! In an . I also find that interesting which seems to me she couldnt handle conflict either. Said, he refused couples counseling., Shanann was expecting a son they planned to name Niko. If we assume that she killed the children, why did he not turn her to the police and secretly dumped the bodies of his children that she killed. Married 5 years and 9 months. I think she realized especially during her stay in NC that there was something very wrong and the change was likely permanent. That was definitely the plan." She noted that most murders of American women are committed by intimate partners, not strangers. You put up with 3 impatient, demanding women in the house, she wrote on Instagram in April. Shanann was married to a man named Leonard Kim and they got divorced in 2009. I listened to Interview podcast with the ex. After killing Shanann, he drove her body to an oil drilling site where he worked, taking daughters Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3, with him. I felt all along there was apparently a rush by the prosecution to get this case brought to closure while ignoring various aspects that to me were very important. During the welfare check, the police officer inspected the house but there were no signs of Shanann and her daughters. Chris Watts, then 33, had grown distant from his family and was seeing a new woman. They were also due in court just weeks after the murders because their homeowner's association sued. I think chris felt tremendous pressure from the debt and third baby and family issues and feeling controlled and emasculated. During the investigation, Shananns purse containing her phone and keys, her car in the garage, and her wedding ring on the couples bed were found. Cans Natz. She added that domestic violence does not have to be physical. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. And they were his children too, not just shannons. It is how you build one. He committed to committing some of the worst offenses and then proceeded to act like it was no big deal. May be she aspired to live a little beyond their means but she didnt kill anyone not does that make her evil. Two years later, he is housed at Dodge Correctional Institution, a maximum-security prison, in Waupun, Wisconsin. Yes, there is a way to test whether bodies could be placed through the Thief Hatch with [or possibly without] breaking bones but youre not going to like it, Welcome to the Post Truth Phase of the Chris Watts Case, Exclusive Interview with the Lindstrom Couple, Proof The Third Baby Was All Chris Watts Idea, The Final Three Weeks of the Phone Data Review #2YearsAgoTodayCW. Only thing I can think of even though I dont think he has it in him is another girl. If this information is available somewhere where I can access it can you tell me where? All parents would want the best education for their children. If Chris CHOOSES not to make a choice in anything ie lets watch what you want to watch eat where you want to eat go where you want to go etc that doesnt automatically make Shannan controlling, it makes Chris a boring, spineless, personalityless wimp. Shanann was born to Frank Rzucek and Sandra Rzucek. Hes the best dad us girls could ask for., Need help? Chris mother is controlling. She realized she was belittling him, and too controlling, and expressed concern to Nickole about how shje was behaving and treating people. By entering your email and clicking Sign Up, you're agreeing to let us send you customized marketing messages about us and our advertising partners. In a fit of rage, Chris strangulated Shanann and took the three dead bodies to a remote oil-storage site, Anadarko Petroleum, where he was employed before. Our love just grows strong everyday!". Shanann Watts reached out to a friend and shared her growing concerns about her marriage but she never suspected her life was in danger. He was charged with five counts . Shanann knew for months their marriage was in deep deep trouble but she also thought the 3rd pregnancy was a binder to keep Chris in her control. I need you to meet me halfway. Remains believed to belong to their two children were later found nearby. Required fields are marked *. 2023 BuzzFeed, Inc. All rights reserved. She started seeing signs long before he killed them even confiding in a friend I dont think hes cheating on me as he has no game! True Crime Analysis, Breakthroughs, Insights & Discussions Hosted by Bestselling Author Nick van der Leek, Discovery DocumentsEx husbandLeonard King. But she didnt let up about it. He probably fantasized about a different life for a while. I love Chris! she wrote. In an interview with a. , Christopher said he and his wife had an emotional conversation before her disappearance, and he pleaded for her and the kids to come home. Shanann Watts was born on Tuesday, January 10, 1984 (age 34 years at the time of death), in Passaic County, New Jersey, United States, as Shanann Cathryn Rzucek. She would have moved back to NC, had her parents look after the kids, gotten a regular ole job and not have been too happy. He is also reportedly back in touch with Kessinger, who changed her name after the murders, per Daily Mail. Shanann Watts was born on January 10, 1984 in Clifton, New Jersey, USA. And if her controlling nature was no big deal then it would have been no big deal. In July, Chris flew to North Carolina to meet up with his family. You spoil us with love an attention! You have some real writing talent. Watts said he strangled Shanann in their bed after he said she told her their marriage was over and she said he would never see their children again. Similar to C&S relationship. It all goes back to SW having a similar strong personality to CWs mom, that is probably the sole reason CWs mom didnt like SW. Called him a wierdo one one of her nauseating THRIVE pitches. I know an ex wife who was getting very greedy and sued for more and lost because her ex could show he had no income by getting his employer to pay him in cash and lived on credit cards for a while. My former brother in law once told me that he let his wife make most of their decisions. Ive watched hundreds of hours of videos and read all the discovery on this case and I think some of what you write may be true but not all. Shanann Watts appeared to be fighting for her marriage up until she was murdered by her husband Chris Watts.. Just a couple of weeks after the first trailer for American Murder: The Family Next . I think all the abuse and toxicity of being with Shanann and realizing that someone else would want him and treat him well made him snap. Chris Watts and Shanann Rzucek met in 2010. Only parents can say that. Online, she projected the image of a happy wife. Amy Miller, executive director of Violence Free Colorado, said people who are being abused by an intimate partner often behave in ways that seem counterintuitive to those around them. https://shakedowntitle.com/2018/09/30/dirty-south-customs-shananns-dirty-little-secret/. Millions of people face this everyday, I know I did. It amazes me to see photos and videos of Bella and CeeCee and the love they had for one another is plain to see. Separating was sort of a trial one when she visited family for 5 weeks, and divorce was push coming to shove in Chriss mind to permanently change his life. The thousands in shoes, clothes, purses etc. There isnt a loss like it. I like nice things and having nice experiences. Place Where Shanann Watts Children were Hidden. I have thought she cheated all along as well. He wasnt emasculated by her, thats who he was before she came along. I personally would not have gone on that AZ trip knowing there is something wrong unless we had come to an impasse and had agreed to disagree or agreed to either separate or try and see how things go (which is what the speculation and her texts show). I find it very odd that he did not have girlfriends in high school and prior to meeting Shanann and that we never hear from any of them. Though the Watts family had financial struggles, they also had a . It is/was a gut feeling that we all get, a sinking feeling that cant be explained or described but his withdrawal was a big clue that she should have put more stock in. If you look at his fb page, shes still on his friends list. She could barely handle the 2 monsters she had, another on the way, and Chris did a lot around the house to help out with the girls, meanwhile she had them in school that cost them 2K per month. The ex states Shanann states she left because domestic violence. Shanann and Chris jointly filed for a chapter 7 bankruptcy in Colorado Federal Court in June 2015. Shananns family has said Christopher, 33, confessed to killing his wife and children. She did cheat with the dirty south guy. Then he meets Nichol, and he does what she tells him to do. Yes, she did want to have the good things in life. They were spending more money than what was coming in and trying to live a wealthy life they could not afford. Weve never had a problem in our relationship like this. Chris was arrested by Frederick Police on August 15, 2018, after he had failed a polygraph test, and subsequently, confessed to murdering his wife, Shanann. We may never know, but amateur sleuths may want to look at a timeline of their marriage for clues. I think the combination of having freedom, no matter who he was with, the upcoming gender reveal, the added pressure to their financial and health woes, Shanann badgering him for not responding to or caring about her when shes in North Carolina, and then the final straw of the nut gate incident and Shanann basically demanding he cut off his family with the exact wording he should use to confront them, and adding that they wont be allowed to to see his children again nudged him towards the decision to get rid of his family who were becoming too large of a burden for him. Chris had been pulling away from her for a long time but once she got pregnant he was trapped and she knew it. Thank you so much, Your email address will not be published. She was a victim of the Watts Family Murders that occurred on August 13, 2018, in Frederick, Colorado. I feel bad for as I know she knew right after the NC trip that he was cheating on her and her marriage was coming to an end. Odd that when her marriage to King ran into trouble her behavior exactly mirrored that of Chris in the months before the murders: Not waning to engage in conversation, shutting down, withdrawing, physically distancing herself within the home, etc. Chris told Shanann he wanted a divorce a few hours later. But this wasnt the trigger, it couldnt be, because Shanann already knew about the divorce, and had known for a long time. Nothing out of the box. 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