So Cal commuting traffic is no joke it may be normal to some people but that doesnt make it ok!! Go to Nottingham (don't commute) Go to Holloway (commute) A jsuch01 I am going to uni in sep, and i am considering commuting 2 hours, each trip, to my uni. I was astonished at the traffic inbound. But, thats because I work 7-3 or 3:30 and get in about 6:30-6:45. OMG. That's 2 hours on the bus, 9 hours on Amtrak's Sunset Limited. Its just a matter of life in a major metro area. Oh, I agree! I fill up 2 times a week @35-38 dollars. Unfortunately, as the cost of housing rises in major cities, more people are living outside of them, meaning more traffic. It was fine for a while, but that changed drastically when I had a baby and my schedule priorities changed. Currently my commute is about an hour each way, in ideal conditions. School doesn't stop when you get home. Thats probably a personal preference thing. But really try to make sure your mindset on traffic is in a healthy place. Or Glendale to Long Beach. I used to have a 45 minute commute, which was absolutely unheard of for Ogden at the time. I dont think Id personally cope well with much over half an hour if I had to drive but I probably have a bit of bias that comes from living in a small UK city where lots of things are well within walking or cycling distance, or public transport, so my expectations of what I find doable in terms of committing is affected by what Ive become used to. I dont know anything about LA or LA traffic but to be fair, a 30 mile commute in the NYC area would also take FOREVER. But as another lifelong Bay Arean, I agree that 2-hour commutes in the central Bay Area are not common. That said, when I relocated to the Northwest, I was adamant that I needed a much shorter commute. East side / West side / South (e.g. A friend posted a listing for the house next door to her in a nice neighborhood in the DC area yesterday the same house here would be 1.5-2 x the price, and would be on a much smaller lot. There are a lot of jobs in OC. He is 3.5 years old and never has accidents on these days (although he is ready to go out as soon as I get home). One accident in the wrong place and its another 2 hours stuck on the bus. I live in West Los Angeles. I just declined to go further with a job because they required butts in seats 5 days/week and even with flexible hours (which I wasnt sure they had), the commute would be 45-60 minutes of stop and go stress. Or alternatively, find another job with less of an arduous commute? In the beginning, he had these super long commutes. Aya's general sick leave policy is that employees accrue one hour of paid sick leave for every 30 hours worked. Anything else and Im moving or getting a new job. There are a lot of ways to answer the long commute question, its more about finding the right answer for your specific household than the one true Right Answer. If it snows, anywhere from 1-3 hours. I live in LB too! Its easier when LAUSD is on their various school breaks and also during the summer, but 2 hours to get 30 miles actually sounds normal and about right, depending on which freeways you have to take. The difference was really that my commute usually had just a quick moment of traffic right by my office (government office surrounded by lots of other government offices, with thousands of people all leaving at the same time), and his was about 20 miles closer, but stop and go the whole way! I would move closer to work but cant afford it. The best thing I could find to do was use alternate county backroads to get home once I got off the beltwayit doesnt get me home any faster but as I tell my husband, its the illusion of getting home faster because at least Im constantly moving and not killing my knees pumping the brakes! The other parent leaves a little later and drops off the kid, but works later. Its pretty easy to demonstrate that this isnt true just by reading this comments thread. My sister in laws father lives in Calabasas and thats his typical commute. I assume the writer lives in the valley and works on the ocean side which means theres only one way through the mountains the 405, aka the busiest highway in the country. I dont mind driving 35 to 40 minutes for work, but I absolutely hate SITTING in traffic for that amount of time. My commute is two miles each way, and I walk it 95% of the time. Freeways everywhere, and theyre all jampacked. Very different than 50 minutes in traffic. Welcome to the coast without much public transit. I know however people are taking it daily to commute to and from Toronto. Somewhat related: I just did my taxes this week and I never noticed before that theres a relocation benefit if youve moved for work. My last contract was about 40 miles away from my domicile and I drove. This was a really hard habit for me to break, but my quality of life got so much better when I just shrugged and said It is what it is about traffic and commuting. I carried brass knuckles at all times to make myself feel better, but I never had to use them. Yeah, my husband currently commutes from Arlington to the Laurel/College Park-ish area. Biking takes me 23-28 minutes every single time. Haha, were not arguing! Count your commute as work hours when you start looking for a new job. I think LA is just so far past vehicle capacity at this point. rt commute, it would definitely shave time off, but it would only be workable if you LOVE bikes. I think just having parents around to babysit at short notice, and actually being able to do things in the evenings occasionally with my partner would be amazing. I think the longest commute I have ever had was 45 minutes to an hour (once driving and once by subway). I dont love it, but I like where I live, I like that my method of commuting is relatively cheap (I could choose another method, but Id pay significantly more to do so), and I like that taking public transit allows me to do other things with my commute time. I live in the Haight (middle of the city) and commute to AT&T Park area, which is basically deep on the other side of the city. I also happen to live in a part of the city that is very conveniently located relative to the suburb where my office is located, and that was sheer luck. America greatly needs better public transportation. Easily 1.5 hours home each day. Not your fault/Its normal to be a bit nave about a new city. I considered that a good commute it was the shortest one I had the whole time I lived there. Great point. They let us go when they got bored, without any harm, but its an experience I will NEVER forget. I get up at 4 a.m., go to the gym to beat traffic, get home at 7:30-8 p.m. and am in bed by 9 so I dont fall asleep at the wheel. Yeah, like so totally normal! I would sincerely hate this commute. Totally agree. 55-1 hour 15. stop and go. Im Bay Area and peninsula to city (or peninsula to SJC) is easily 1o miles and 90 minutes. Wake up at 5AM Since hes from a smaller town, he never really got used to commuting and hates it passionately. That sound horrible. I think youd be shocked. Not as long as your commute, but still longer than what I am used to. It really depends where you live & work in LA, since its a sprawling city/county. LW I understand your struggle. Im putting in my notice during my 3-month review.No point leading them on, I know even if I stayed another month Id still quit in the end and its impossible to interview without calling out with these hours. Yep- bay area can be really really bad. We are a full-service companion animal/FL wildlife hospital. They never listen. Right now my commute is 10 minutes, 15 minutes if there is heavy traffic. It would be one thing if you lived in Redondo or Fullerton, as there are side streets to get you there if the freeway is f*cked, but 405 just isnt worth it if youre not making a killing at your job. It is a great read (at least, if youre a data nerd!) At least its sunny most of the time. Subway takes 30 best case and 50 worst case, car takes 18-60. I know someone who used to bike from Venice to Union Station, then take light rail up to South Pasadena. I left home in the dark and got home in the dark, no matter what time of year it was. I had to reply to this. Youd think a book about traffic would be as boring as traffic is, but everyone Ive recommended it to has found it really interesting. The previous owner of a place I do some IC work flew helicopters as a hobby and there was an old helipad behind the building. I dont think there is anything wrong with looking for a position closer to where you live. The median home price is $1.3 million dollars in my city. Or you could make a post on the Los Angeles subreddit; theres someone there that could build you an ebike for ~$2000. You get used to it. I definitely increased my data plan when I was commuting on rail so I could watch Netflix and Now TV on the train. Its the sheer number of cars in the road. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Im on the east coast and one of my previous jobs was a minimum 45 min. A 2 hour commute is a reason to move. Do you end up having to leave very early and arrive home at bedtime? Although I was in school for the first few years in LA, I also consider this a commute. I now have two traffic lights that slow me down to 10 minutes. But that is an unimaginable luxury around here. In the east coast big cities I also think that they are more psychologically inclined to live IN the city itself not just because of necessity but also there doesnt seem (from my limited perspective on the west coast) to be a big social stigma attached to it. Thats not being special snowflake, thats being realistic about your limitations. I moved out of state and ended up driving anywhere from 35 90 minutes one way to work, depending on traffic, what time I left, and if there was a fender bender on the one highway I could feasibly take to my job. If Id done that commute via freeways, it would have taken at least an hour each way. Theres the official Commuter Express routes run by LADOT, but many of the far-flung suburbs have a special express bus service to get people to LA (Foothill Transit comes to mind). It's dark and cold. I work in the East Bay, and people in my office commute from Tracy, Manteca, Stockton, Merced, Sacramento, Vallejo. is not affordable at all. Anytime train tickets An Anytime train ticket is a flexible ticket that allows you to travel at any time of the day. If it were by bus I might not feel the same way, but Ive never had to deal with that. I know that I absolutely could not stand sit behind the wheel of my sporty little 2 seater, inching ever slowly in traffic. And frankly, New Yorkers may believe theyre more stand-offish, but youre more likely to be entirely ignored by the other passengers in CA than in NY. The only short commute Ive ever had was a 3-month retail job down the hill from my parents house, which was usually ~5-10 minutes. Your feelings are valid and even normal for what youve been through. On top of that, the metro doesnt extend that far outside of DC. Actual experience trumps book learning every time. Theres a reason, despite improved public transportation, we love our cars. When I lived in WA there were a LOT of horrible (white) drivers who, as my roommate put it all learned to how to drive in the sticks on a tractor and has no idea how to handle real cars on the almost traffic-free roads & freeways in the small town where I lived. A big difference for the NYC person is that So Cal has lots and lots of space to sprawl (so we did pushing living spaces and working spaces further and further apart) and we are car obsessed. LA Story! Is it normal? Coming home, though, was awful. Now they spend 3 to 5 hours a day in their cars. Keeping your car clean will probably also help a lot. There are plenty of routes you can take in LA to get from point A to point B. I dont know how people drive standards here ;). Me personally, Im taking a vanpool from the IE to the OC. It was the extra push I needed to turn down a position that probably would have made me miserable. When my family drove to Colorado from San Antonio, we popped those in and it helped the drive a lot. Train is less stressful, but can be up to 2.5 hours if he misses a bullet train. Just because it is normal doesnt mean its sane. Its an awesome daycare, but we hate this. But yeah, two hours isnt unheard of for any of those cities. Im one of the rare people who live in the same city as my employer, although only because I cant afford to move. Have you looked into taking the train/subway? Obviously its possible. Those trips are close to an hour even late at night because its not all highway. Are you getting paid enough for that? (Spoiler, the answer is yesnot that anyone who has driven on congested hwys didnt already know this). I live in the Bay Area too and 30 miles is never two hours well unless you go through SF. Some folks could handle this and would be fine, and others are not okay with this sort of commute. I would never take a job with a 2 hour commute unless it was short term. Every place might be accessible by public transport at some point during the day. It is pitch black outside. I live in the SFV, two major freeways are short drives away. Im 54 and not exactly tough-looking, but I used public transit regularly while living in downtown LA for seven years before moving out of the area last fall. My $5 raise from my nyc job is just gas money. For people unfamiliar with the area, the SFV is northwest of LA (Los Angeles) while the SGV is northeast of LA. Its miserable and I understand completely! I got my commute down to 40 minutes each way, and then realized I would rather pay more for a smaller home than spend a bunch of time commuting from a large house. Sadly, given the insane cost of housing in the areas where the jobs are, this is more and more common. I couldnt drive for 5 hours each day even if I didnt have to work too, and there was no traffic- and I *like* driving for fun! It really doesnt matter whether I leave at 7 am or at 9 am it takes just as long to get in every day. OP, if you cant quit (or even if you can) I strongly advise you take steps to make your commute as nice and relaxing as possible! The boyfriend grew up there and told OP how it was. Lately, Ive started bringing my laptop and working, so perhaps Ill start leaving earlier and spending less time at the office. Silicon Valley, for example, has tons of jobs, but not enough housing, so people commute from all over, packing the roadways. As the crow flies, my commute is 4 miles. MUNI IS THE WORST. This job is also much more flexible. The freeway systems are less well planned than LA/OC/SD and require many many more lane changes. It doesnt matter if this is normal or not. Right now, this would not work for me at all, unless I was commuting to a place where Im eventually planning to move. Would you be able to at least leave earlier, even if you cant start work early? When I lived in LA, I worked off hours (usually 1pm-9pm) and still spent most of my drive not moving in traffic so what should have been a 30 minute commute was normally 1-1.5 hours. Plus I got hungry on that long commute. The same commute by public transit would have been 1.5-2 hours (with a transfer) minimum. And there is nothing I can do about it. I am an average-sized white female. Im from Sunnyvale and I go to college in Merced. Good grief! I did the same thing when I was house hunting since I was pretty committed to the job. Boston commutes are about 1 hour and many commute between Massachusetts and Providence up to an hour. I used to work about 10-15 miles further down the road, so maybe 45 miles total, and that was an hour and half each way, getting in at 7. Its a problem of too many people, too many cars. 8.67 miles/hour. This seems not-that-abnormal based on things my southern CA based friends have said about their commutes. I guess the idea that Im actually moving gives me the illusion that its not as bad as just sitting in traffic. OK, I realize this is coming at the end of a loooong thread, but this all simultaneously made me weirdly homesick (Bay Area native) AND thinking about The Californians sketch on SNL and how true it is, Get on the 405 and never come back, Steeeewarrrrt!. I think this contributes to the OPs frustration and burnout, and Im glad to see shes taking steps (as she mentioned in a comment) to get a better situation for herself. Even a cab will take me about 30 minutes due to rush hour traffic. Since there are only so many routes, that is the main pinch point. NYC. Instead of arriving early and leaving early, do the opposite (say 10:30am to 6:30pm). I do think its more about what works for you than what the norm in your region is. June 29, 2018/ Jim Parker What was the biggest news in the world of cycling in 2017? I went on a business trip to Charlotte one day and we had to drive to the airport during rush hour and I was freaking out wed be late based on my experience with Houston rush hour traffic. My sister drives even further, close to 60 miles, and her commute is about an hour. My current commute is about an hour but most of it is by train. When I go home to visit, I wont even get behind the wheel any longer. This is one of those things that depends on you and your situation. The thing is though the San Fran executive team were basically like this is normal and our team in San Fran commutes 2 hours so you shouldnt have a problem with adjusting your commute for a new office location. I live in Chicagoland. He had to take the 580 through the mountains to get to Fremont, which is a total bottleneck so it always sucked. LB to Weho sounds terrible. These are my hard limits: Hope you find something that keeps you off the road! OP, Im older than you by 20, so let me share my thoughts on a long commute. After some time living in this city, youll get more familiar with neighborhoods and traffic patterns, and youll be able to strategize how to cut that commute down either moving to a closer area to your work, taking a new job closer to your home, or adjusting your commute times to non-rush hours. Of course, thats me living out in a rural area, heading into the state capital and downtown. Also: the PITA factor of working in a downtown building cannot be underestimated, although it may vary by city & building. I even have a part time job that is 6 minutes from my house in the opposite direction so on the nights that I leave one job and go straight to the other my commute is still less than 15 minutes. And of course the more high-paying tech jobs are added there, the higher the demand for housing there is. Depending on traffic, 10 miles can take over an hour. So there are a lot of factors. Nuts are a healthier way to snack than some other poor choices I couldve made. Long rural commutes can be hard on your gas budget and wear and tear on your car, though. I do not feel safe taking Blue Line and neither does my husband who is a 6 ft big dude. My husband has a couple co-workers who wanted to make their home-buying budget go further, so they bought homes and hour and a half from work, two or more hours on heavy days. I also lived uptown and usually got a seat, so YMMV.). That was one train ride with a walk on both ends. The shortest average daily commute is about 15 minutes for people living in Midwest cities like Witchita, Omaha, and Tulsa. To me, its almost heaven on earth. Which is also within 30 miles of Bushwick. Thats the kind of analysis you have to undertake to avoid a 2-hour commute in that part of SoCal. How much you like the job, how easy your life is when you finally get home, and what you can do in the car to make the time not feel mind-numbing and wasteful. As someone who just put an offer at $80,000 over asking on house that would be 5 mins from my partners work, I feel personally attacked, yet so validated, by this equation. Right now Im at about 45-50 minutes depending on metro waits. My current commute from the northwest corner of OC to the south Irvine area takes me 45 minutes and I think this is roughly standard for this general area. I moved recently (several blocks down the street) and joke about how my commute doubled from 4 minutes to 8 minutes. She creates really unique / weird worlds. If it doesnt work or he says no, I think looking for another job or moving closer is the next step. Transit trips tend to be longer on average than driving commutes, which can be because of the added time of transfers/connecting/slower travel, but also because people are willing to tolerate longer transit trips than driving trips since they can zone out/sleep/read/work en route. If not, I would have a frank and awkward talk with your boss. I have a good job at a good organization that Im not willing to leave, and trying to find work in a different state is a difficult endeavor. :(. The only way I see people make it work is to have jobs you can start really early like be in the office at 6:00 AM and leave work at 2:oo PM. Sure, we could afford living in a shoebox with a 15 minute commute but that wouldnt be preferable. Even stopping to drop kids off at daycare, my total commute whether I take the streets or the freeway is 15 minutes. Vallejo has always been part of the Bay Area. FWIW, my cousin lives in LA, and she told me her commute from West Hollywood to Santa Monica was about 1 hour. It is normal for some places. Sometimes I would take the commuter bus into downtown, then hop on the Expo line to work. I live in Southern California, Los Angeles area, and when my commute was roughly 25 miles, it took anywhere from 1 hour 15 minutes to 1 hour 30 minutes each way working from 7 4. After 2 hours of bumper to bumper traffic, 45 minutes of highway speeds is amazing and were grateful. Ride share with a coworker and alternate driving days so that this time is your social time. I love my 30 minute commute on laid back country roads now. It just doesnt make sense for me to move closer to LA at all. Youre not crazy. Say you have a line of 10 cars and the first car has to stop very briefly for some reason. To me its insane to be spending 4+ hours per day on your commute. It would only help for one way, but it would still give you back an hour or so. Where I live a commute that takes an hour in a car at peak traffic takes about 20 minutes on a moped. My commute is currently about 10 minutes and doesnt involve a freeway. Ive looked at a few jobs in SF specifically because I live in Vallejo, which has one of the ferry buildings, and its only an hour by ferry across. Theyre actually radio shows, but sold on audiobooks on Amazon, so Id recommend Cabin Pressure and John Finnemores Souvenir Programme. I cannot figure out how the average in Alisons link was calculated 30-40 minutes seems nice but definitely rare in my office! Yeah, in California it is becoming moreso. I used to have that. Im seeing people list such short commutes and I literally cant imagine that. All rights reserved. Intellectually, I know that the whole homeownership is the American Dream and renting is just throwing money away thing is so much BS, but theres a part of me that cant quite shake the feeling that Im getting too old to be dealing with landlords and annoying downstairs neighbors. California traffic has long been the butt of jokes. If the traffic in LA in untenable for you, it isnt unreasonable to move to another city if that is a possibility for you. but thosere a lot less stressful than 2 hours of stop and go rush hour crap. Sometimes I do have to stay late and even that cuts into time I do need I cant imagine swinging a 10 hour workday and then adding a four hour commute on top of that! Alas, Los Angeles is like this nowadays. You can see them broken down by metro area here and by county here. Los Angeles is not only not really bike friendly, in fact it is quite a bit bike hostile. Good luck finding something that works better for you. 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